Link Building is ranked one of the most important SEO tactics by the experts, and while there are numerous guidelines and ‘best practices’ for getting quality links, link building is not a simple task. Julie Joyce, owner of Link Fish Media, a link building company, co-founder of the SEO Chicks Blog and monthly columnist for Search Engine Land, joined us last week to address the challenges that come with link building. In case you missed it, here is what Julie and the rest of our chat participants had to say:
Q1. If your goal is to get a link penalty in the shortest time possible, what is the first thing you would do?
If you don’t want Google to penalize your links, don’t do these six techniques:
1. Get Low-Quality Links or Buy Links
If you obtain numerous, low-quality links, either from a tool like GSA or from a number of Private Blog Networks (PBN), Google will most likely take a closer look at your link building strategy.
A1: create a PBN and link away baby.. #semrushchat pic.twitter.com/IdMlnbhxLe
— SnowWrite #techseo (@SnowWrite) April 18, 2018
A1: Get links from multiple low-end PBNs (private blog networks) at the same time #SEMrushchat https://t.co/xQljInWrNq
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
This goes for buying links, too via sites like Fiverr or by hiring multiple agencies to build your links at the same time. If you do this, your links will have no value to add to your website or your users. If you want to get penalized, this is a sure-shot way to make it happen.
2. Hire An Inadequate “SEO” Company
It is never a bad idea to hire an SEO specialist or agency to boost your rank or do the heavy lifting for you. However, it is important you hire someone who is competent and knowledgeable - not just someone who claims to be a pro or a guru.
A1: Maybe finally answer that "link building expert" who's been stalking your LinkedIn profile. #semrushchat
— Danny Ray Lima (@dannyraylima) April 18, 2018
A1. Hire just about anyone other than @JulieJoyce or the Idaho Link Boys #SEMrushchat
— David Cohen (@explorionary) April 18, 2018
3. Use Exact Match Anchor Text
Anchor texts are important, however, if you use the same exact matching anchor texts for every piece of content you create, this could raise a red flag for Google. It is important that you ensure that all anchor texts you use are relevant because the more relevant your article is to your target keyword, the better your rank will be.
A1: Spin as many articles out as you can on as many sites as you can with exact match anchor text links ;p #semrushchat
— Rachel Howe (@rachelmhowe) April 18, 2018
4. Use Black Hat SEO Techniques
While this one may sound easy, many SEOs are still following shady SEO practices to increase their rankings. If you are acquiring a large number of links in a short amount of time, Google may notice since they are frequently updating the algorithms to ensure that black hat SEO techniques are easier to spot
A1: i'd say that having a huge delta of link aqusition rates would signal Google to take a closer look as to what's happening #semrushchat
— JP Sherman (@jpsherman) April 18, 2018
The fastest way to get a link penalty? Stephan Spencer - @sspencer says to post a question about your PBN to a Webmaster Central forum if you want a manual link penalty.
5. Use Shortcuts
Hacking your way to the first page is a huge no-no. Using article directories or scraping big brand logos on your website and using their content to improve your SEO will penalize you.
A1. Given the manual actions I've dealt with in the past, I would say that article directories are a fantastic way to get penalised #SEMrushchat
— David Gossage (@dgossage1983) April 18, 2018
A1 Copy (scrape) top brands content, including logos, and build a set of pages with them. #semrushchat
— Simon Cox (@simoncox) April 18, 2018
Q2. How can you tell if you should disavow a link? What exactly do you look at to determine this?
Disavowing is a task necessary in SEO, particularly in agency life when a new client comes on board. As a rule of thumb, the links that you accept should be both relevant and valuable to your site’s current content. If the link is spammy or self-promotional, it is always better to disavow it.
A2: I also tend to be very cautious with disavowing unless there is a manual action. Then it’s time to hit as many bad links as possible. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/KqS7DHrJed
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
A2: If a link is relevant to the current post and for the targeted audience i leave it as such. If it is self promotional, out of context and offers 0 value - it is best to disavow the link #semrushchat
— Fanny Heuck (@FannyHeuck) April 18, 2018
Your best bet is to check the quality and the context of the site you plan on linking to. Do your research and visit the site first to make sure that it is suitable for your website.
A2: I never EVER disavow any site that I haven’t visited. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/KqS7DHrJed
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
While it is pretty simple to get an idea of the website once you take a look at it, here is what you should look for to see if it is a good link building opportunity for you:
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Where does the website get links and traffic from? In order to see this, you can utilize SEMrush’s Backlink Analytics tool to get a better idea as to where they are linking to.
A2: Check @semrush data to see if the site does actually get traffic or if it's just out and out spammy. Look at sites linking to it as well to get an idea of where it gathers links from #semrushchat
— Andy Drinkwater (@iqseo) April 18, 2018
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The neighborhood of the link. When in doubt, look at how Google treats the website. If you link to a site or page that has content deemed to be spam by the search engines, there is a chance that your site will also be spammed.
A2 Do some research on the site. Check the neighbourhood of the link. Think twice about it. Go back next month and think again. Let Google ignore it for you. #semrushchat
— Simon Cox (@simoncox) April 18, 2018
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Does it contain malicious code that could affect your website?
A2: You want to be careful with disavowing links. However, if a site is spammy or contains any kind of malicious code, you'd want to disavow the link to your site.
Just do your research before you take any action. #semrushchat
— Express Writers (@ExpWriters) April 18, 2018
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Is it indexed by Google? If not, then you should pass on this link building opportunity. An easy way to check if a site is indexed is to go to a Google Search and type in site:www.websiteyouwanttolinkto.com. SEMrush’s link building tools can help you with your site research. Use them to check for spam and then link detox to disavow non-compliant sites.
It is important to keep in mind that not everything is decided by metrics. If the site feels right and has great quality content, despite a low domain authority (which is not a Google metric), you still can keep it.
A2: I don’t disavow solely by any metrics so I may leave lots of sites that have a high risk score. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/KqS7DHrJed
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
A2: A lot of the decision is made by how I FEEL about the site, not just whether it has good or bad metrics. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/KqS7DHrJed
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
A2: i've worked in industries where there are a LOT of passionate folks with simple, amateur sites with high expertise - i keep them because of topical relevancy (and they're fans) #semrushchat
— JP Sherman (@jpsherman) April 18, 2018
A2: I'll tell you what I don't look at..the DA #semrushchat
— Devin (@DevDawg) April 18, 2018
Q3. Which types of backlinks should be disavowed in the era of Penguin 4.0?
Typically, you can make an accurate call by looking at the page/link. If it looks too out of context, or even a little bit spammy, you can go ahead and disavow it.
A3/2: I think it is going to be very awkward to just give a type of link. Obvious ones like Gambling or Porn that might not belong to your niche, or anything else clearly out of place #semrushchat
— Andy Drinkwater (@iqseo) April 18, 2018
A3. Put human eyes on the page. If a link looks like it shouldn’t be there (totally out of context)...then it probably shouldn’t. #semrushchat
— Tracey Drain (@karate_barbie) April 18, 2018
The key is to ensure that the link pertains to your relevant area of interest and occupies the same niche so that readers get solid value out of it.
A3: use your best judgement. If it doesn't fit the niche or local area you're targeting, it probably doesn't need to be in your profile. #semrushchat
— Sean Bucher (@spbucher) April 18, 2018
A3: Any link that offers no value to a site, uses spammy anchor text, and/or is from any type of shady origin should be axed.#semrushchat https://t.co/nyTiwGifgm
— ThinkSEM (@ThinkSEM) April 18, 2018
Otherwise, here are a few links you should typically steer clear of:
1. Malware and suspicious sites such as gambling or porn sites.
A3: I would say anything that looks suspicious in appearance, malware sites, and sites that are playing dolly parton in the background. #SEMrushchat
— Danny Ray Lima (@dannyraylima) April 18, 2018
A3: I’d usually disavow links from porn sites. I’ve never had a client who wanted to keep those. #SEMrushchat 😬 https://t.co/mkMKVFDOyp
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
2. High-risk content like keyword stuffed anchor links without a nofollow link.
A3: I would usually disavow widespread press releases that used keywordized anchors and didn’t nofollow them. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/mkMKVFDOyp
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
3. Low-Quality directories or article sites.
4. Link reciprocation sites which are typically link farms or link exchange groups; these are very popular within Facebook communities. By linking to these sites, you have a higher chance of raising up your risk score.
A3: Links aren't all that effective if link reciprocation involves that #nofollow cruft(tm) #semrushchat #justsayin
— SnowWrite #techseo (@SnowWrite) April 18, 2018
Every link doesn’t have to be disavowed. Like I stated earlier, if it is a poor link, but adds value and gives a new perspective to your reader, you should keep it.
a3. Not everything needs disavowed even poor links might pass some kind of value, only disavow if you really really need to. #semrushchat
— Craig Campbell (@craigcampbell03) April 18, 2018
Before disavowing a link completely, verify it with Google or seek advice from a pro. Even if the link is paid, like an editorial article that is well-written, this can give your site an advantage.
A3: Don't automatically assume a link needs to be disavowed. If you aren't sure, seek advice. Google is better at spotting spam links now, so tread carefully and only disavow if you think it is really needed #semrushchat
— Andy Drinkwater (@iqseo) April 18, 2018
A3: For example some paid links are so well done that even though they are a violation, they could pass for editorial links so I’d leave them. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/mkMKVFDOyp
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
Q4. What is your workflow to find potentially bad links?
As with any marketing or SEO strategy, it is crucial you stay organized with a set plan. Start out with a backlink audit and assess the results you get in order to identify which measures you need to take. Being organized or having a plan is critical.
A4: I’d say whatever tool you use just sort it and start checking everything. Find a way to organize it. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/8iCWCQHN2B
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
A4. Always start with a backlink audit and assess from there. #semrushchat pic.twitter.com/k9tj2cdkdY
— Brafton (@Brafton) April 18, 2018
According to our chat participants, here is what an ideal workflow should look like:
Step 1: Get a comprehensive list of sites that are linking to your website using tools like SEMrush, Google Search Console, and Majestic.
A4/2: Places to get list of sites linking to you:
- @semrush
- Search Console
- @ahrefs
- @Majestic
- @Moz Open Site ExplorerGather all the links together and remove duplicates in Excel to get a clean list to work with.#semrushchat
— Andy Drinkwater (@iqseo) April 18, 2018
A4: SEM Rush has a tool for this too: https://t.co/PElrNAYdLb #SEMrushchat https://t.co/8iCWCQHN2B
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
A4: @semrush is a must-have tool for our team! 👍🏻 #semrushchat
— Express Writers (@ExpWriters) April 18, 2018
Step 2: Combine the data you get from whichever tool you use, remove the duplicates, and make yourself a master list. You can remove sites you have never heard of, sites with weird anchor text, and sites with foreign language links.
A4: Start by checking your backlink profile. Then look at sites that link to you thousands of times, sites that link with weird anchor text, sites from abroad you have never heard of and so on and so forth. #semrushchat
— Tadeusz Szewczyk (Tad Chef) (@onreact_com) April 18, 2018
Step 3: In order to streamline this process even further, you can sort the sites according to their high-risk score. Then, check each website manually to see if you indeed want to disavow them.
A4: I manually review all the high-scoring URLs to see if I want to disavow them and usually make both a first round and second round disavow list. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/8iCWCQZnU9
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
A4: I use Link Detox from @lnkresearchtool. I sort by highest linkdetoxrisk score and hand check each site. The toxic sites get a removal request email from me using @PitchboxApp #semrushchat
— Stephan Spencer (@sspencer) April 18, 2018
Step 4: When you individually visit each site, check it is spam score. Then, verify it against the Marie Haynes’ database, just to be sure. This will give you a good insight as to whether the backlink is worth keeping or deleting.
A4:
- Visit site
- Check Spam score
- Check against @Marie_Haynes database
- Check backlinks to linking site
- Can link be removed easily?
- Disavow if really necessary#semrushchat— Andy Drinkwater (@iqseo) April 18, 2018
Step 5: Disavow links only if it is purely necessary. Make two lists, if necessary, and see if the links can be easily removed. Then, double check your list before sending a disavow request.
A4: I manually review all the high-scoring URLs to see if I want to disavow them and usually make both a first round and second round disavow list. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/8iCWCQZnU9
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
A4: I use Link Detox from @lnkresearchtool. I sort by highest linkdetoxrisk score and hand check each site. The toxic sites get a removal request email from me using @PitchboxApp #semrushchat
— Stephan Spencer (@sspencer) April 18, 2018
A4: I always doublecheck everything on the disavow list before giving it to the client. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/8iCWCQHN2B
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
How you design your workflow can make a huge difference in your link-building results. If you need a more comprehensive outline, see how our SEMrush community manages their workflow.
Q5. Which link building strategy would you characterize as “the risk is far greater than the reward”?
It would be very tempting to get a whole lot of backlinks at one go, however, doing something like this isn’t sustainable. Using any black hat SEO techniques like cloaking, hacking, and link buying at a definite no.
A5 for #SemRushChat#BlackHat tactics such as:
Cloaking
Hacking
Buying pic.twitter.com/KVtNJahHV5— Knucklepuck (@KnucklepuckDC) April 18, 2018
Here are some hacks you need to avoid:
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Getting ‘expert’ help from non-experts: SEO experts are a dime a dozen. Do not hire ‘specialists’ with a questionable reputation, who have either no link building experience or advocate black-hat tactics.
A5: A bad call would be to take link building advice from someone who hasnt built a link in years #semrushchat
— Devin (@DevDawg) April 18, 2018
A5. Taking the advice of amateurs, SEO charlatans, and the Link Building 'Ninjas' #SEMrushchat
— David Cohen (@explorionary) April 18, 2018
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Paid link exchanges:Avoid link for link triangles, ‘link farms’ or the regular run-of-the mill Fiverr link sellers. They will not help you in the long run and let’s face it – money cannot get you great backlinks.
A5: So many to list!
I would always avoid link for link or link triangles, blog commenting and any Fiverr link sellers... That is just a very small list of what I would class as the worst you could go for #semrushchat
— Andy Drinkwater (@iqseo) April 18, 2018
A5: Purchasing all the links.
Just, don't.#semrushchat https://t.co/cAj7qafyGv
— ThinkSEM (@ThinkSEM) April 18, 2018
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Repetitive anchor text: Usual guest posting strategy of using your most pertinent ‘golden’ anchor texts across all platforms is a strict no. These are the exact match anchor text we spoke of initially, that will get you penalized in no time. Mixing up anchors with a combination of long-tail and short is a much safer, professional method of link building.
A5: Buying links, especially when exact match anchor text is used on the sites you buy from. #semrushchat
— Netvantage Marketing (@netvantage) April 18, 2018
A5. Repetitive guest posting strategies that are full of the same keyword text links. #semrushchat pic.twitter.com/ZHA4dvnFtE
— Brafton (@Brafton) April 18, 2018
A5: Too many text links with your money keywords in them #semrushchat
— Stephan Spencer (@sspencer) April 18, 2018
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Public Blogging Network: Usually, the risk is higher than the reward and PBNs definitely get classified in our list of ‘tactics to avoid’.
A5) PBNs. They may be offered to me many times a day, but it doesn't make 'em good#semrushchat
— David Rosam (@davidrosam) April 18, 2018
Though all of the above techniques may seem to work well for a short time (especially sub-standard paid links), it is definitely not recommended. This is especially true if you are a small brand with a modest profile.
A5: Crappy paid links can also work well for a short time but for a small link profile there’s no way I’d recommend them. They can also work pretty well for big brands, like it or not. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/iN8vrfG1y4
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
Sometimes, tactics that shouldn’t work may work very well for your brand, which makes it so much harder to decide which SEO tactics may actually hurt you. That is why you should frequently check GSC or your tool of choice of anomalies and monitor them constantly.
A5: I’ve seen so many things that shouldn’t work work very well so it’s really hard to pinpoint what’s going to hurt you sometimes. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/iN8vrfG1y4
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
A5 checking visibilty, rankings and GSC for anomolies - if there are any then the hunt starts. Then I would use toold to review backlinks and only take action if Google had not already or there is a backlink spam campaign going on. Else leave for Google to decide. #semrushchat
— Simon Cox (@simoncox) April 18, 2018
Q6. What are the biggest link building mistakes you have made?
The art of SEO and link-building has definitely evolved; with the ever-changing Google Algorithms and a growing understanding of what can hurt or improve your site, a lot of practices have been discontinued.
A6: Not my mistake, but a funny story: Once found out a client would go to the public libraries and change the browser homepage from Google to their site. They said they were link building and driving a lot of traffic so Google would see they're popular. #semrushchat https://t.co/QjoiSTIEvo
— Matt Lacuesta (@MattLacuesta) April 18, 2018
Here are some of the biggest link-building mistakes our chat participants have made:
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Not setting aside enough time for link building. So much focus goes into creating quality long-form content and distribution that your link building strategy can end up on the back burner. When this happens, and you finally get around to your strategy, it is usually hurried and rushed. This is why you should make sure you have a regular routine of checking your backlinks profile and focusing on growing it with quality links.
A6: not setting aside time on a regular basis to improve my link profile. I didn't make it a habit so it always felt rushed & drastic #semrushchat
ritualize linkbuilding y'all
— JP Sherman (@jpsherman) April 18, 2018
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Getting low-quality links. Before Google started penalizing sites who had bad links, a lot of sites utilized any link that came their way. Back then, it didn’t make a difference, but nowadays, these types of links can actually hurt your site.
A6: Acquiring too many site-wide links at one time for a client -- as in, 10,000+ links OVERNIGHT.
Ooooooops ;)
This was way back in the day, no worries about present time tactics like this!#semrushchat https://t.co/THcUjYyMhj
— ThinkSEM (@ThinkSEM) April 18, 2018
A6: Acquiring too many site-wide links at one time for a client -- as in, 10,000+ links OVERNIGHT.
Ooooooops ;)
This was way back in the day, no worries about present time tactics like this!#semrushchat https://t.co/THcUjYyMhj
— ThinkSEM (@ThinkSEM) April 18, 2018
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Poor outreach. The secret to quality links is to reach out to the right people who have relevant content on their site. Your focus shouldn’t just be on getting a backlink, instead, you should also focus on building a relationship with the site owners as well. Spending too much time on outreach can also be detrimental, so make sure you know beforehand who you are following up with and when to quit and look for other opportunities.
A6: Probably not understanding how to perform effective outreach when I was starting out.
You need to not only be able to find a good link, but build up a rapport and find a way into target sites #semrushchat
— Andy Drinkwater (@iqseo) April 18, 2018
A6: As an intern, I would spend too much time looking for contact information to do outreach. Now if I can't find the contact quickly the time *usually* isn't worth it. #semrushchat
— Netvantage Marketing (@netvantage) April 18, 2018
A6) Spending so much time with outreach to large publications that ended up just tarnishing my reputation with them. #semrushchat
— Daniel Henderson (@ppcwontletmebe) April 18, 2018
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Reaching out to people with competing content. Before starting your link building campaign, you should thoroughly research the site that you are requesting backlinks from. If the site you are looking at is a competitor and you end up sending a request for a backlink, your chances of ranking may not improve.
A6: Not realizing someone I approached had a competing resource elsewhere on the site. Always do a site search for your topic. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/sUCD8sF4Ay
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
A6: My employees have screwed up MANY times haha…emailing Search Engine Land or Moz to ask for a link in an article, for example. God bless 'em. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/sUCD8sF4Ay
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
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Reaching out to sites that sell links. Like stated earlier, site research makes a huge difference. Before approaching a website, you must fully vet their site - even if they don’t sell links.
A6: I asked for a change when the webmaster didn’t do what I wanted and she flipped out on me and took the link down #SEMrushchat https://t.co/sUCD8sF4Ay
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
A6: Not fully vetting a site I approached and then after the fact, realizing it wasn’t a good fit…like they openly sold links and I didn’t catch that #SEMrushchat https://t.co/sUCD8sF4Ay
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
To avoid such mistakes happening to you, check out effective outreach strategies that can positively impact your link building.
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Preferring authority over relevance. While it is easy to get tempted by site authority and not focus on the relevance of the site, you need to look at every link that you receive; not just the authority or the authenticity. It is important to also look at the relevance, before making any decisions.
A6. Getting attracted by the site authority scores and dumbly trying to link to them, even if there was no correlation between my content and theirs. ☹️#semrushchat
— Ankitaa G Dalmia (@Anki_Live) April 18, 2018
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Not having the right team for the task. Link building is an important SEO tactic that is ultimately driven by the outcome. This means that you not only should have the best people on the job, but they should also have a clear idea of what their goals are so that they can make informed decisions.
A6: One of my team requested a link removal from a legit site that was friends with my client. My client forwarded my staff's link removal email to me with a "WTF". Oops #semrushchat
— Stephan Spencer (@sspencer) April 18, 2018
A6: Delegating to my link building team a bunch of tasks instead of delegating the desired outcome. Doing the former meant I had to micromanage everything and I was the bottleneck. #semrushchat
— Stephan Spencer (@sspencer) April 18, 2018
A6: We had a link builder get into an email argument with a lady who worked for a talk show host and she emailed me to basically threaten to destroy us on social media. #SEMrushchat https://t.co/sUCD8sF4Ay
— Julie Joyce (@JulieJoyce) April 18, 2018
Needless to say, you need to have a clear idea of what a good link and a bad link is before starting out any link building campaign or strategy. If you are new to link building or want to up your game, see if these top 5 link building methods can help you and let us know what your top link building strategies are in the comments; we wouldd love to know!
Make sure you join us this week on #SEMrushchat with JP Sherman as we discuss How to use Onsite Search as a Conversion Multiplier!
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